Name this rose
Ok, now that I have more readers, I am wondering if one of you can ID this mystery rambler. It was on the property when we bought it, and was referred to as a tea rose by my neighbor—I am pretty sure that is not an accurate description. It has a semi-double form and starts out a deep pink, lightening as it ages. There are many, many buds on each stem.
It’s also a very thorny rose and seems to love neglect. When I cut a few sprays, they tend to wilt easily. There is a small amount of rebloom. Of course, you really never get all that much rebloom from most roses, except the modern shrubby ones.
Oh right, scent—a mild, peppery fragrance.
I wouldn’t say it’s driving me crazy, exactly, but I would like to know what this is.
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In my neighborhood, we have identified several cross-bred plants and hybrids that are a little bit out of the norm, and that's because--I'm not making this up--a researcher and professor at Johns Hopkins University was known for dabbling in homologous recombination in flowers, rather than in crops. He's dead now, but many of his plants live on, year after year.
I would tread carefully around the plant and make note of any mutations or irregularities--you make have a rare hybrid on your hands that you could propagate on your own.
It is not a Knock-Out, i really ...
Knock-outs have a shorter shrubby habit, and much better rebloom.
have a good season while gardening.
Rosam Que Meruit Ferat!
Rainy and Theresa, I have considered Sweet Briar.
JP, I don't actually drink while gardening--the name is explained in a post--it is the first one under "perennial posts"
My memory may be off, being about 25 years old from a "complete rose book" that I lost in 1986, but it looks like one of the native American wild tea roses that so struck my fancy in its pages. However, I don't recall anything about the wild varieties having a semi-double form. Perhaps it's an old-fashioned hybrid?
You didn't mention the age of your home or property in this entry, but I recall many backyards in my childhood filled with old-fashioned ornamentals that thrived on neglect. It made perfect sense, because ordinary women back then were too busy tending to life's necessities (including kitchen gardens) to have time for nurturing fussy plants.
Also, I remember taking household refuse to the trash burner at the very back of the lot -- it was a metal basket with a heavy lid, into which we put brown grocery bags full of garbage. Not everyone burned their trash everytime they took it out -- sometimes it might sit for days in the burner (I don't know why). As you can imagine, the refuse "pit" got quite stinky, whether trash sat for days or while it burned. Maybe that's why that part of everyone's backyard was "privacy screened" with aromatic flowering vines and bushes.
Good luck in your search for an answer - I look forward to checking back to see what you've found.
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As always, Wikipedia has an article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugosa_Rose
Does your rose seem to sprout up new stalks (right term?) from the ground? Ours exploded from a small plant to having some kind of presence in more than 9 square feet of evergreen shrub/aspen grove, like the invasive weed it probably once was. We let it do that (and have been neglecting that area ever since--gives a nice natural look to things), but sometimes it will sprout up a stalk in a spot we don't want. When it does, cutting that stalk to the ground seems to stop it continuing to spread in that area. Does yours do that?
I don't know whether ours would climb or not, since we've never asked it to.
Seeing as my mom go the "wild rose" plant from Ace Hardware, I'm guessing that it wouldn't be too uncommon. The similarity of our plants lends creedence to one anonymous poster's suggestion that it might be an old-fashioned wild tea rose. I woulnd't know the technical name of our plant, though.
All the plants at my house committed suicide.
With regards to your question....I am able to differentiate between grass and flowers and thats about it. So I can say that those are definitively flowers.
PRETTY FLOWERS.
Well its nice anyways!!
Great photography too!!
Cam
I have a big garden and have just come across the strangest bugs that are eating my tomatos.. Needless to say I am hand picking them, don't like pesticides:)
They look like a mutated ladybug, with spots on their sides..
Just moved to the south a few years ago and am going to try my hand at some roses next year, so your blog is quite inspiring!!
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/index.php
? I think they have logged every rose ever named. Good luck! It's a beautiful rose.
Good luck
I personally like to garden naked.
Hers look EXACTLY like those pictures!
The main practical outcome would be to tell people where to buy it if they wanted.
How interesting that others call it tea rose. It doesn't conform to that definition at all if you look at the books.
I'm in Florida, and used to have a nice rose garden. But our soil tends to hold too much moisture in the summers and we have the same problems you're having with yours. Still, there's nothing like wonderful fresh-cut roses in the house.
Check Van Dusen Gardens, Vancouver. If you go to Vancouver, BC be sure to include this public garden on your itinerary. It's much more beautiful and natural than Buchard Gardens in Victoria. Van Duseun has an outstanding sculpture garden as well.
American Pillar is surely well known enough.
Nice gimmick.
Of course we lost the tag/stake but as close as we can remember the dealer (local nursery selling at the flea market)had tagged it as an "English Wild Rose".
I just ran and picked the last two remaining blooms (for this round anyway)to hold up to the screen for comparison.
Looks nearly identical, magenta pink more single than semi-double, deep yellow stamens and a barely visible white heart. Wonderfully spicy "wild rose" fragrance.
I remember the truly wild roses of childhood being called Marsh Roses - as that is where they would flourish - and this is pretty similar rose but with a bigger, frillier bloom.
The American Pillar mentioned looks lighter and says it flowers late Summer, whereas these are already done flowering for the first time.
I just found your blog this am and love it. Love all the great posts with helpful links too, saved for future reference.
Angela
The Sycamore Boutique & Scent Shop
(not gardening related but a great place for fragrance junkies )
I chanced upon your blog through "Blogs of note", drawn - of course - by its very attractive title. And what a treat!
Anyway, to the point: my father (who sadly passed away in 2005, aged almost 92)spent his entire working life as a roseman on plant nurseries around our home in Cheshire, UK. In my youth (many moons ago!) I used to spend my school- and university vacations assisting him with such activities as budding (ie grafting varieties onto root stock). I have a distant recollection of a rambler named "American Pillar" that used to be grown. I've just checked on Google images and it does indeed look very much like the one in your post.
I would say yours is almost certainly not a rugosa type. If I remember correctly, not only do they have large hips but their leaves are matt - not glossy - and both leaves and stems are considerably rougher and coarser than the ones in your photo.
I'm sorry to "ramble on" (pun intended), but I hope you found it useful. By the way, I'm not a professional gardener like my Dad was, although I still have a keen interest, time allowing. So please don't rely on my suggestion!
One of my regrets, having grown up surrounded by roses, is that in our house (into which we moved 20 years ago) there's hardly a one. Ah well, maybe this correspondence will inspire me to rush out and stock up with our national flower!
Meanwhile, do keep up with your excellent blog.
All the very best,
Mike Wilding, Knutsford, UK
He said that it's a "floribunda" rose, and indeed, loves to do it's own thing.
Do you collect seeds and sell them? I love flower garden and do collect seeds.
i saw a simliar picture here.. maybe you guys can figure out..
they are beautiful either way..
good luck!
I also found this..
a sweet briar rose is more simple- maybe it's a hybrid w/close relation.
Botanical Name: Rosa BAIrage
Common Name: All the Rage, Easy Elegance
I have one planted in my front yard. Purchased from Southwood Nursery in Tulsa, Oklahoma
http://ghs.gresham.k12.or.us/science/ps/nature/gorge/5petal/rose/rosa/nrose.htm